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April 18, 2006

The Armenian Genocide: It happened

Genocide

NY Times: A PBS Documentary Makes Its Case for the Armenian Genocide, With or Without a Debate.

It is impossible to debate a subject like genocide without giving offense. PBS is supposed to give offense responsibly.

And that was the idea behind a panel discussion that PBS planned to show after tonight's broadcast of "The Armenian Genocide," a documentary about the extermination of more than one million Armenians by the Turkish Ottoman Empire during World War I.

The powerful hourlong film will be shown on most of the 348 PBS affiliate stations. But nearly a third of those stations decided to cancel the follow-up discussion after an intense lobbying campaign by Armenian groups and some members of Congress.

The protesters complained that the panel of four experts, moderated by Scott Simon, host of "Weekend Edition Saturday" on NPR, included two scholars who defend the Turkish government's claim that a genocide never took place. The outrage over their inclusion was an indication of how passionately Armenians feel about the issue; they have battled for decades to draw attention to the genocide.

[In] the discussion program "Armenian Genocide: Exploring the Issues," [i]t turns out that there is only one articulate voice arguing that Armenians died not in a genocide but in a civil war between Christians and Muslims — that of Justin A. McCarthy, a history professor at the University of Louisville. His Turkish counterpart, Omer Turan, an associate professor at the Middle East Technical University in Ankara, tries ardently to back him up, but his English is not good enough to make a dent. And the two other experts, Peter Balakian, a humanities professor at Colgate University, and Taner Akcam, a visiting professor of history at the University of Minnesota and a well-known defender of human rights in Turkey, lucidly pick Mr. McCarthy's points apart.

Mr. Balakian, who is one of the experts cited in the documentary, gets the last word. "If we are going to pretend that a stateless Christian minority population, unarmed, is somehow in a capacity to kill people in an aggressive way that is tantamount to war, or civil war," Mr. Balakian says, "we're living in the realm of the absurd." ...

To some, this is an issue of history about a relatively obscure topic. But to those of us who have met and discussed the events of 1915 in the Ottoman Empire with actual survivors, there is no question that it was indeed a genocide, that the Turks and Kurds were responsible, and that it continues to haunt generations of Armenian-Americans.

Here are some heart-wrenching articles I wrote on the subject when I was still with the Sacramento Bee:

The forgotten ones: The boy who was sold for a silver coin and other Armenian stories of survival

A backgrounder: Witnesses to genocide

Gov. George Deukmejian on the Armenian genocide

Today, 19 years after I wrote those articles, I still get emails from relatives of survivors of the Armenian Genocide, who express exasperation at the Turkish government's refusal to come clean about the events in the Ottoman desert 91 years ago.

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i am a proud Armenian, and really mad about the Armenian Genoside, Those were my ansestors there, starving to death and other poor Armenian's getting killed. I have seen the video about the Armenian Genoside and cryed, that is the worst thing that could happen to Armenian's and people say Armenian's have the most saddest eyes about their past.

-Armenian Princess*

Posted by: *Armenian Princess* at Apr 23, 2006 1:45:47 PM

there have always been many ungrateful and backstabbing nations during the centuries but such a nation has never been seen.What did turks do to you apart from favor? Didn't u live in a peace by ottoman empire during the years? what was your response to this goodness? your ancestors betrayed this mercyful and just regime. they took a side by invader and crual russians in anatolia. your ancestors attacked civil, innocent and disarmed turkish villages under the protection of russians.their purpose was independence.do you think this was the correct method for that? ottoman empire didn't order armenians to be killed against such an inhumanity. your ancestors were just deported from anatolia and some died because of inconvenient conditions on the way.They were never massacred systemacaly. What else could Ottomans have done? A traitor nation, which has lived within your country for a long time, is murdering your people and you will remain silent and just watch everything.Would u do that? of course no! but u dont have any courage to admit that because u are grandsons of these traitors. We trust same god and I do not have any hesitation that whatever happens God's justice will realize some day. The real killers and cruals will be punished..

Posted by: alonewolf at May 13, 2006 7:39:17 AM

Everybody talks except historians. There is a mass propaganda saying Turks killed millions(!) of Armenians systematically which is the biggest lie in the history. It seems that PBS joined to this lie community. They don't even debate the issue but they are very confident that a genocide was happened. No one mentions what local Armenians did with the help of Russia against the empire they lived within.

It's interesting only Turk side has been insisting on letting historians discuss the issue. I can assure you that Armenians will always be against scientific researches (carried out by honest historians) on the subject.

It's a shame that recently some civilized(!) European countries have laws punishing a person who who denies Armenian genocide (even if he mentions it's sufficient for him to be arrested!)and again no one remembered the existence of historians.

I hope common sense will beat rich lie lobbies.

"Writing history is as important as making history. If the writer does not remain true to the maker, then the unchangeable reality transforms into a confusing matter for humanity."
M. Kemal Ataturk

Posted by: truthseeker at May 31, 2006 1:19:19 AM

i am a Turkish girl in Turkey. i don't belive that armenian genoside, if armenians have a proof they must show, if don't they mustn't say anything about that. and Ottoman Empire behaved armenians, greeks, and the others well!!! maybe some Turks killed some armenian people but Ottoman Empire killed the killers!! write me an answer...
one day every one will learn the truth!

Posted by: TURK at Oct 13, 2006 10:08:34 AM

Lots of countries in the world tried to take soils of ottoman empire throughout the history.But they didn'thave enough power to fight to take,so they played strategic and cheating games to ottoman.They achieved at last and ottoman empire was seperated into the pieces.
Today there is an other country like ottomans.As you guess it is Turkey.It's impossible to take soil from Turkey because of its army.Well,how can people take soil from it or how they can divide the country?Answer is easy:they can talk about the genosides(which has never existed) or they can find other nonsence about Turkey to claim some rights against Turkey.
Do you have any knowledge about ottoman behaviours for the armenians?I think you dont have enough...Please check the history and see what Turks did..If you check it you will see the real genosider.The real genosider is not Turks but armenians...To examplize it ı can give an advise to check the pictures which shows murdered Turkish people by Armenians.Have you ever seen a picture which shows a murdered Turkish pregnant woman and her unborned baby?I saw it!!A picture which shows a genoside in a village in Urfa by armenians??
Here my questions:1)Do you really believe the armenian genoside although you have not any document?2)who has to be sad about genoside?Who is the real genosider?
Finally please dont mix the brains by using this armenian genoside nonsence...

Posted by: hopelesseagle at Feb 1, 2007 12:46:40 AM

I do not think Armenian genoside is true.Russia, France,Britian used us agaisnt the Turks.They are still using us.A lot of turks also get kiled by Armenian militias.We, the armenians lived happily inside the Turks until russia and France gave us some false promises.Turks have done nothing but to defend themself.

Posted by: ArmenianEagle at Jul 17, 2007 2:42:19 PM

My father had 3 brother,they all killed by turks, who give a write to kill My 3 uncle,not at war in Kaysery that was not war,they were Armenian's they had better life,then turkish muslim people and turks jellies ,and start to kill them I didn't see my 2 grandfather,why,who do hell turk's to kill other human been,because they not muslim and they live batter life look at most successful writer Mr Orhan Pamuk,Book!!,My grand mother use to tell after they left My father 5 day,at home and run for their lifes,5 days later to come to Barry MY Father!! My FATHER was a life,Turkey has to stop trying to change the history all ready happen,are they really out of their mined?all those people who dye,and people who give their testimony's, are they all lie?,NY time Is lying too?,those days who report to news paper,are they all liars? and this 20 to 30 yr old turkish kits wont to change the history,or million of dollar,payments,or stratjical land turkish people has that's why my country USA is not to telling truth??it is a shame,well we should start to say now because of war all JEWS gad KILLED,by GERMANY?IT IS OVER DO,LADYS AND GENTELMAN, IS OVER DO!!stop to Lie's and world knows what happen to Armenians,I know what happen my 2 grandfathers,and my uncles,

Posted by: Paul at Sep 27, 2007 2:31:28 PM

All you nasty Turks are Wrong the Genocide did happen. Just stop denying it, you know it happend. I know how you guys feel, and I understand it is very hard to say that you guys killed many people, but F.Y.I this is ruining your chances of getting into the Euro. Think about it. And its not that we hate the Turks or Young Turks but we Armenians HATE YOUR GOVERNMENT. I belive if you just say you did it we can maybe become close again. NOT BEST FRIENDS> ALL WE WANT IS for you guys to apologize, confess that you did do it, and some of our lands back.

Posted by: Citrus at Apr 27, 2008 11:07:19 PM

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